1 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,600 If I asked you, 2 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,680 "What is Britain's answer to Hollywood?" - where would you think? 3 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,920 Well, today the BBC Antiques Roadshow has come to Elstree, 4 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,160 and Elstree Studios, just outside London, 5 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,680 have produced some of the most 6 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,280 memorable movies and TV programmes over the past years. 7 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,440 These rather nondescript buildings have produced things like Star Wars, 8 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,400 Indiana Jones, The Dam Busters, 9 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,840 The Shining, and then on TV, 10 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,520 The Muppet Show, The Avengers... 11 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Strictly is made here... 12 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,800 ..and Holby City. 13 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,640 213, take five. 14 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Last year, we asked you to get in touch with your stories connected to 15 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,320 the world of entertainment, 16 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:35,800 and not just TV and movies, but also music and stage. 17 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,200 So where would make the perfect backdrop for such a programme? 18 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Where are we? 19 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,200 EASTENDERS THEME MUSIC PLAYS EastEnders, of course. 20 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,640 We're privileged to have Albert Square as our backdrop 21 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,160 for this entertainment special. 22 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Yes, we'll hear from stars of EastEnders 23 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,120 over a tipple in the Queen Vic, 24 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,160 meet unsung heroes behind famous movies like Star Wars, 25 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,360 come face-to-face with Basil the rat, as well as meet fans of stage, 26 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,640 screen and music legends. 27 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,640 I think we can guarantee a nostalgic feast as we turn the spotlight onto 28 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:14,240 showbiz on tonight's Antiques Roadshow. 29 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,280 Well, I've got the privilege of introducing 30 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,520 one of the earliest heroes of my life. 31 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,120 So, without any further ado... 32 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,720 PIANO PLAYS 33 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,000 # We want Muffin, Muffin the Mule 34 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,200 # Dear old Muffin, playing the fool 35 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,320 # We want Muffin, everybody sing 36 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,680 # We want Muffin the Mule. # 37 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,560 Hello. So you're here at last. 38 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,560 So, the star of the show, and you are? 39 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,120 Will McNally. And tell me, Will, 40 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,200 what is your association with this fabulous mule? 41 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,080 Well, it was my grandparents who owned and worked him, 42 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,440 back in the '40s and '50s, and through into the '60s, I suppose. 43 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,920 I mean, was he always called Muffin the Mule? 44 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:06,000 Well, well no, he was actually made in 1933, 45 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,200 so, as a puppet, he's 84 years old this year, 46 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,080 and it was when my grandparents, who were Ann Hogarth and Jan Bussell, 47 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,760 and they were well-renowned puppeteers of the Hogarth Puppets, 48 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,000 and they were touring around the country in a caravan 49 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,640 that converted to a puppet theatre, 50 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:24,400 and they were doing their shows and they found that they 51 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,920 were five, ten minutes short in their length, 52 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:29,080 so they needed something else. 53 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,360 So, one night my grandfather was there, 54 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,680 and he decided on a kicking mule, 55 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,160 and the kicking mule was to come on at the end of the puppet circus 56 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,280 and sort of shoo and chivvy the clowns off the stage... 57 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Oh! ..chasing them around this way and that, 58 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,600 and it all went down very well and the audiences loved it... Yes. 59 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,120 ..but, after a while, my grandparents grew a little bit 60 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,960 bored of it and they decided to cut that part of the act 61 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,480 out of the show. 62 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,720 And so my grandfather was working for the BBC as a producer and he 63 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,040 met Annette Mills, and Annette Mills wanted to do a programme for 64 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,200 children, singing songs at a piano, and she wanted something to go on 65 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,520 the piano top, to help illustrate the songs, 66 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,720 so she approached my grandfather and said, 67 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,600 "Oh, Jan, would you make me a puppet?" and he sort of said, 68 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,800 "Why don't you come round to my house and select one of my puppets?" 69 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,280 Well, Annette fortunately thought that was a great idea, and so 70 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:23,520 she went round to their house the very next day 71 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,360 and selected the kicking mule, and named him Muffin the Mule. 72 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,280 Wonderful, wonderful. 73 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:31,080 And as for Annette Mills, who by the way was the sister of John Mills, 74 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Sir John Mills... Correct, yes. 75 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,120 ..we've got a photograph of her, way back at the BBC, at her piano, 76 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,960 with Muffin, in full flow, and you can see your grandparents up there. 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,360 That's right. Well, Annette was the face that everyone knows, you know, 78 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,800 because she was the one on TV, 79 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,080 but it was my grandmother who worked Muffin. 80 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,360 My grandfather worked the others, and he was the TV producer and 81 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,160 director of the show back in those days. 82 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:01,040 This is a programme that lasted until 1955, am I right to say? 83 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,600 That's right, yes. So tell me, where is he stabled these days? 84 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,560 Oh, back home with me in Devon. 85 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,800 But he's never out of retirement, is he? 86 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,960 No, we go around and we do a few presentations here and there... OK. 87 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,560 ..and I'm hoping I might be able to get him back on TV one day. 88 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Yeah. Well, you know, I've... I've got to value this fella. 89 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,520 I mean, how do you value a TV icon? 90 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,840 Very difficult. It's really, really difficult. 91 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,720 Now, I should point out for the benefit of the viewers that there 92 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,160 are a lot of Muffin the Mules out there which are 93 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,080 made from a die-cast metal. That's right. 94 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,760 I mean, I mean they produced thousands of them, and they do 95 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,040 turn up with a certain amount of regularity on the Roadshow. 96 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,640 They certainly do, yeah. But what we're looking at here 97 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,240 is much larger in scale and is the original. 98 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:46,840 He is the original, he is the one and only that was made in 1933. 99 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:48,840 I will give you a modest, 100 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:52,480 a modest guestimate that he's worth at least £5,000... 101 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,400 Oh, yeah. ..but I'm tempted to opening the bidding to all these 102 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,360 people here and see where we go, but thank you so much. LAUGHTER 103 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Oh, it's a pleasure. And...this sounds a bit silly, 104 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,720 but despite the years I... I still want to kiss this fella. 105 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,480 Do you mind if I...? Of course not. Come here, come here, 106 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,080 I've missed you too. Mwah! LAUGHTER 107 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,600 You can call me bonkers, I don't care, I don't care. 108 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Ahh... 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,200 Next, Roadshow viewer Geoff 110 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,480 recounts his unusual brush with fame to expert Jon Baddeley. 111 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,960 So, Diana Dors, sometimes known as the English Marilyn Monroe. 112 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,360 Tell me the story of when you met her. 113 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,000 1977, I was driving up the M1, one Sunday evening on my own, 114 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,240 very little traffic. A large Lincoln Continental flew past me at 115 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:47,040 great speed, and I was going very slowly in a wreck of a car, and 116 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,040 a little further up the road, there it was, stuck by the side of the 117 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,440 road, with clouds of steam coming out one end, and Diana Dors standing 118 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,560 there with a T-shirt on, with her own name across her chest 119 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,920 and a picture of Paul Newman on the back, thumbing a lift. 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,840 So you were the knight in shining armour... 121 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:04,640 Apparently, yes. ..come to her rescue. 122 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,480 Yes, yes, and then she was quite happy 123 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,360 to be taken to the Queen's Hotel in Leeds. 124 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,840 She was absolutely lovely. She was very down to earth. 125 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,760 She was one of the most, sort of, normal, 126 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,520 if you like, people I could talk to, 127 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,280 and the one thing I really remember her talking about 128 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,600 with some amusement was, was her affair with Elvis. 129 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,640 That kind of stuck very much in my mind. 130 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,720 A year later or so, she was signing this book, 131 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,640 the first one she produced, at Boots in Leeds. 132 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,000 And when we got to the front of the queue, 133 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,200 a book was handed to her and I said 134 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,120 to her, "Hello, Di, how's the car?" And she... She looked at me, 135 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 instant recognition. "Oh, hello, how are you?" 136 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,760 and told the manager she was giving me the book. 137 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,640 She signed it for me and then she said, 138 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,120 "You're in the book. The story's in the book. 139 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,160 "Can't remember which page it is, but there you are," 140 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,560 and all the people around were going, "Mavis, is he famous? 141 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,560 "Should we get his autograph, too? LAUGHTER 142 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,960 And she dedicated the book? 143 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,160 And she, yes, she said, you know, "To Geoff, thanks for the lift." 144 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,760 "Thanks for the lift! Diana Dors." What a lovely memory. 145 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,680 It is, yeah. Cos one sort of thinks about Diana Dors as somebody 146 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,360 who...all the scandal that went around her, she had... 147 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,040 She was notorious, wasn't she? But she worked really hard. 148 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,400 She was very active, not only as a film star 149 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,840 but also as a cabaret singer, 150 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,840 and I think she was a very popular guest on all the talk shows. 151 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,960 And what's the book worth? Not a huge amount. 152 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,720 To anybody else, it's worth, I don't know, £30 or £40. 153 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,080 To you, it's worth thousands. Yes, exactly. 154 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,200 There's not another one like it anywhere. 155 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,520 Next, it's all about outrageous outfits, 156 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,320 flamboyant performances and sheer excess. 157 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Surrounded here by all this amazing stuff 158 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,640 from the world famous Liberace - 159 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,960 one of the greatest entertainers of the 20th century. 160 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,960 Mr Showmanship himself, yes. 161 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,560 And unusually we've got two collectors here today. 162 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:07,960 Yes, and we've not met, which is very exciting. 163 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,600 And you've not met? Not till now. So, how did your obsession start? 164 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,320 You in the beautiful purple shirt first. 165 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Thank you, yes, in honour of Liberace himself. 166 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,280 So I started about 20 years ago. 167 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,200 I collected the first Christmas card and I thought, 168 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,000 "Oh, this is interesting, maybe there's some others." 169 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,560 And Liberace had over 200 fan clubs around the world. 170 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,920 He received something like 10,000 letters a week. 171 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,120 I mean, there's actually 34 cards that were sent 172 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,960 from 1953 to the year just before he died in 1986. 173 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,320 This is the 1953 card. 174 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,320 What's interesting is that, actually, even in these early cards, 175 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,000 he slightly dyed his hair. 176 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,240 He was told he didn't look quite mature enough, so he actually dyed 177 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,760 his hair, and actually, in the later cards, he's got much darker hair. CHUCKLING 178 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,920 I love this one, this is so camp. Look at that. 179 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,840 Yeah, exactly, with the mobile, yeah. 180 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,280 I mean, just... I mean, they're very difficult to find now. 181 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,920 It's taken me, sort of, 20 years. 182 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,040 Of the 34 cards, I'm just missing six, so I've still got a little way 183 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,360 to go, but I'll get there, I'll get there. 184 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,320 And how did your obsession start? Well, my grandfather Joe 185 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,600 and my father John Bat both worked in MGM Studios... 186 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,840 Oh, really? ..which was just up the road from here 187 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,440 in the '50s and '60s. Yeah. So I've always 188 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,280 been a little bit starstruck, and of course, when Liberace passed 189 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,880 away, they sold all his items from his houses, 190 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,360 and I just had to have something, and obviously chandeliers and 191 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,880 pianos would have cost far too much, so I bought what I like, 192 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,160 which is fishes, and I got 12 fishes from his Malibu beach house. 193 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Did you go over there to buy? 194 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,400 No, I rang up America and put a bid in of 500. 195 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,200 Oh, wow, yeah! And I got... For everything? Yeah. Wow! 196 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,640 That was a bargain. Yeah, it was. Yeah, for those who never quite 197 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,200 understood the thrill and the excitement of Liberace, tell us what 198 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,160 it is about him that appeals to you. It's interesting. In 1956, Liberace 199 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,640 came here and did a tour round England, and then he 200 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,520 toured Ireland as well, and there's a great review, actually. 201 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,960 Liberace was wearing all his fantastic costumes. 202 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,400 He was a very, very, very accomplished pianist - 203 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,960 there was nothing he couldn't play - 204 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,760 and by the end of the concert, the reviewer said, 205 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,320 "I wasn't a fan of Liberace. I am now." 206 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,360 And he influenced a lot of other performers. Oh, absolutely, yes! 207 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,400 He... I think, you know, James Brown was like a black version of him, 208 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,200 with the cape and the showmanship and...and Prince. 209 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,840 But let's get down to value. 210 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,560 Um, how many Christmas cards do you have? 211 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:27,480 About 75, probably just over. I'm not 100% sure, but it's around 75. 212 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:33,440 They've got to be worth...that's 75, I would say times 100, 213 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,960 and then you've got all the... Yeah, the signed photographs... 214 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,240 ..signed photographs. ..are worth quite a lot, yes. 215 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,240 How much, how many of those have you got? 216 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,680 At least, probably, five to ten. Again I'm not 100% sure. 217 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:48,520 So, say you've got ten of those... Yeah. ..at about £300 each? 218 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,800 Probably, yes. I would say your whole collection altogether 219 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,920 has got to be £20,000. Wow! Well, he's worth every penny. LAUGHTER 220 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,600 You know, with all the things you've told me you've got... Yeah. 221 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,680 And your glass things that actually belonged to him... Yeah. 222 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:07,280 ..I think have to be worth £2,000 today. Wow, wonderful! 223 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,960 Cos one still has the price tag on the bottom. Oh, yes, look at that! 224 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,360 12. One of the things I love about Liberace 225 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,120 is when he decorated his house, 226 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,360 he actually bought some fantastic and priceless antiques, 227 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,400 but next to it something from a junk shop, 228 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,160 and he valued both of them equally. It was really beautiful. 229 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Well, if it was shiny, he liked it. 230 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,560 Exactly. If it was shiny, he liked it, yeah. Exactly, that's Liberace. 231 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:28,200 That's Liberace. That's right. 232 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,640 From one sequined showman to another... 233 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,840 In the late 1970s, Big Daddy was a wrestling legend 234 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,480 and a regular fixture of Saturday afternoon TV. 235 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,560 Plonking themselves down in front of a telly on a Saturday afternoon, 236 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:47,840 no child of the late 1970s or 1980s could have missed 237 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,360 the monumental man-mountain that was Big Daddy, 238 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,600 and his colleagues, or nemeses I suppose, 239 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,520 Giant Haystacks and Gorgeous George and Kendo Nagasaki. 240 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,920 You must have been a big fan. 241 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,280 Yeah, he was my hero. 242 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,440 I used to watch every Saturday afternoon, 243 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,920 but sadly I wasn't lucky enough ever to meet him, 244 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,040 so I sort of went down the road of life 245 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,320 of trying to collect his memorabilia. 246 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,920 What does he mean to you? Why is he your hero? 247 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,080 He just was. He was everyone's hero, wasn't he, 248 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,480 back in the late '70s and '80s? 249 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,440 Mums and dads, nans, grandads. 250 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880 The music of We Shall Not Be Moved when he came out. 251 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,120 "Easy! Easy! Easy!" Well, there's the teddy bear. 252 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,080 His teddy bear that he used to come out with. Yes. 253 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Yeah, the whole package with him, really. 254 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,720 You know, he met all kids, disabled kids, elderly people. 255 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,920 He treated everyone with total respect. Absolutely. 256 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,000 I mean, growing up Shirley Crabtree, 257 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,640 I think his father was a professional wrester as well. 258 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Shirley Crabtree Junior, who became Big Daddy, 259 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,560 started in 1952, professional wrestling, 260 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:47,160 but it was really when he sort of hit World Of Sport that his, 261 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,560 his sort of... He began to get bigger and bigger and bigger 262 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:50,760 and more famous in Britain. 263 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,520 Definitely, yeah. He wasn't a big star till later on in his career, 264 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,320 till they changed the name to him. He used to be called The Guardsman, 265 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,160 and then he went on to be called Big Daddy, 266 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,160 and that's when it went through the roof, his celebrity status. 267 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,640 But you're, sort of, quite obsessive. 268 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,880 I mean, what we got here? We haven't just got the costumes. 269 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,120 I mean, we all recognise these oversized costumes, 270 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,160 but you've got his watch, you've got his driving licence. 271 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,280 I mean...slightly obsessed? Uh... Yes and no, really. 272 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,320 It's just artefacts that have appeared over the last 273 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,840 20 years or so. 274 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,760 His career, in 1987, hit a sort of hurdle, 275 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,400 with a fight with King Kong Kirk. 276 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,240 King Kong Kirk died shortly after and it was unconnected to the fight. 277 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,000 He had a heart condition. But his career 278 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,880 never really recovered from that. No, it didn't. He was meant to 279 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,160 be on a television programme called The Saturday Show, and he was going 280 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,360 to present that, but it sort of... 281 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,600 He done some more wrestling after that, but he... 282 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,320 He sort of faded away into insignificance, really, which was 283 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,760 so sad, cos a man of that magnitude at that time, he'd be a... 284 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,880 You know, an absolute superstar nowadays. 285 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Well, I suppose, in many ways, he is sort of the forerunner, I suppose, 286 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,160 of many of, sort of, the wrestling stars of today. 287 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,360 He had that big personality, that big frame, 288 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,320 and that sort of big colour. really. 289 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Oh, absolutely. I mean, you know, in this day and age, there's not many 290 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,160 stars that everybody likes, you know? No-one had a bad word for him. 291 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Yeah, he was a legend, wasn't he? He was indeed. Absolutely, 292 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,880 and I don't think there's anybody out there who wouldn't recognise 293 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,880 these pieces and feel similar love - maybe not such deep love as you do 294 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,080 for Big Daddy, but in terms of financial value, I suppose, 295 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,400 what are we looking at? 296 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,200 The singlet might be worth maybe £80 to £100 each. Full costume, 297 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,880 maybe £200 or so, depending on what you're looking at. 298 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,880 These pieces, slightly harder to value, because it's going to take, 299 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,600 sort of quite a die-hard collector like you to, sort of, 300 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,160 want Big Daddy's driving licence, 301 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,440 but there we go, at least it's found a home. 302 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,040 You couldn't pay me a million pounds for it, it wouldn't matter. 303 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Well, I don't think anybody would necessarily... LAUGHTER 304 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,800 ..but we could be looking at, sort of collectively, 305 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,440 around £1,000 or so. Yeah, it means more to me than money, so... 306 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,560 A big heart for Big Daddy. Absolutely. 307 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,200 Thank you very much. No problem. 308 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Well, if there was ever an icon of the entertainment industry, 309 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,400 it has to be Mickey Mouse. 310 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,760 In 2018, he's going to be 90. He doesn't look it. 311 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:07,960 But here we've got a wonderful, scribbled, quick cartoon of Mickey, 312 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,960 and it says here, "Hi, Mike." Now, am I looking at Mike? Yes, you are. 313 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,480 So, put the two together for me. How did, how did it work? 314 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Well, in the 1970s, I was working for my newspaper, 315 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,720 a national newspaper, and I was in Anaheim, the home of Disney, 316 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,840 in California, working with an actress called Daryl Hannah, 317 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,240 she of the famous Splash film. 318 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,760 And after photographing Daryl, I was taken by the execs up to 319 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Club 300, which is one of the most exclusive clubs in the world. 320 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,760 I didn't know it at the time. 321 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,040 While we were having lunch, I'm sat opposite the Head of Studio 322 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,920 and the PR, and suddenly they both went... PROLONGED GASP 323 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,760 ..and I thought, "Somebody's walked, a film star has walked in," 324 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,760 so I looked around. All I could see were four old men, 325 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:06,000 sat at a table, and when I turned round to see my hosts again, 326 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,320 they were still going... PROLONGED GASP 327 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,720 And who were they? Who were they?! 328 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,840 Well, they were the original animators from the early days of 329 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,200 Walt Disney Studios. 330 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,960 So they were four of the remaining nine old men... 331 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,440 The nine old men, the famous nine old men. 332 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,240 You had Ollie Johnston, Frank Thomas, 333 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Wolfgang Reitherman, and, of course, Ward Kimball. 334 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,880 And I wanted to meet them, so they took me over and introduced me, 335 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,600 and I had the most amazing couple of hours with them. 336 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,440 But Ward and I got on famously. Well, let's just talk about Ward for 337 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,840 a moment, because, yes, he joined Disney as a proper animator in 1937, 338 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,120 and he was tasked with doing all kinds of things, 339 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:48,600 including a kind of makeover on Mickey. 340 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,000 If we look back to Mickey's birth in 1928 341 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,800 he was a very different kind of creature. 342 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,120 He premiered in his first film Steamboat Willie, 343 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,000 and he was quite lanky, 344 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,920 not very cuddly, a bit, I have to say, rat-like. 345 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Yes, absolutely, yes. Just between ourselves. 346 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,000 But Ward then cosied him up. 347 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,480 he gave him fatter cheeks, he made him a little bit plumper, 348 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,800 he made his eyes slightly more endearing and... 349 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,640 And I think the whole Mickey that we know so well today, one has to, 350 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,360 to a large extent, plump that at Ward Kimball's makeover. 351 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:30,160 Absolutely. What was fascinating, I said to Ward... 352 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,480 "I loved Mickey Mouse as a child. How did it evolve?" 353 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,920 And he said, "Get me a piece of paper," and he started drawing. 354 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,480 Oh, this is, this is the whole thing happening! 355 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:49,160 And this is Ward starting, and suddenly Mickey is coming alive 356 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,080 on the paper, and when he'd finished it, 357 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,920 he wrote, "Hi, Mike, from Mickey and ol' Ward Kimball." 358 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,520 Brilliant. And the head of the studio said he'd never known him 359 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,480 to do that for anybody, ever. It's a fabulous object. 360 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,160 We then have to deal with the tricky issue of valuation. 361 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,080 The thing is that it's not from one of the films, 362 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,040 so, you know, is that a bad thing? But it is from Ward Kimball, 363 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,520 so that's a good thing. 364 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,480 It is to you. Is that a bad thing or is it a good thing? 365 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,840 So, at auction on the open market, I'd say between 366 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,120 about £500 and £800, but it's almost priceless to you 367 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,120 because it's your very own Mickey Mouse. 368 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:36,080 Thank you very much for bringing it in. Thank you very much. 369 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,640 Well, it's not all about the value. 370 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,800 A few kind words and a thoughtful gift 371 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,880 from the creator of your childhood hero can mean the world, 372 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,280 as Judith Miller's about to discover. 373 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,320 So, Harry Potter - a magical name 374 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,920 to millions of people all over the world. 375 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,400 But, Amy, you have a special link to JK Rowling. 376 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,960 Tell me about it. 377 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,520 Yes. My story started 20 years ago, 378 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,720 when I unfortunately lost my mum to cervical cancer. 379 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,520 She found out that she was 14 weeks pregnant with my little sister, 380 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,200 and she decided to go ahead with the pregnancy, 381 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,680 realising that she was probably going to sacrifice her life. 382 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,960 And then she lost her life. She did lose her life, yes, 383 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,400 unfortunately, in 1997. And this is your mum? 384 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,920 Yes, this is my mum here, and this is myself, 385 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,520 my little sister Hannah, and this is my stepdad David. 386 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,280 In 2003, my stepdad was approached 387 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,920 by the researcher of Make A Wish Foundation. 388 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,040 I don't know if you remember, they used to do Christmas 389 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,920 television specials and I was invited to go on the special. 390 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,760 I declined, because it had been quite a time since my mum had died. 391 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,760 It had been in the past and I didn't really want to rake it all up again. 392 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,160 No. They did say, "We'd still like to give you something." 393 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,160 Unbeknown to me, a big package arrived one day, and in that package 394 00:20:54,160 --> 00:21:00,040 was what you see here today. So, the books here and also the photos 395 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,760 from JK Rowling. So how did JK Rowling know about your story, Amy? 396 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Well, from all of the newspaper articles, 397 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,880 my love of Harry Potter kind of shone through there, 398 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,360 and I think she kind of got an inkling 399 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:12,960 and wanted to get in contact. 400 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,280 So you got a personal letter from JK Rowling. I did, yes. 401 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,680 What's in it, Amy? There's a few funny little quips 402 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,320 about how she doesn't normally write to people. 403 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,480 Little things about Gilderoy Lockhart, 404 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,880 one of the characters from Harry Potter. 405 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,040 Just... Just her admiration for my story and my courage. 406 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,800 It obviously really touched her, this story. Yes, absolutely. 407 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,080 That's lovely and what a lovely gift. 408 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,480 And what about the poster? So, the poster... 409 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,840 I was invited as a guest of hers to go to the studios where 410 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,680 The Goblet Of Fire was being filmed 411 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,000 and I actually got to meet some of the cast. 412 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,600 Surreal experience, sitting on Daniel Radcliffe's bed, 413 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,840 playing PlayStation with him, believe it or not. LAUGHTER 414 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,640 I was then taken into the make-up department, and Maggie Smith 415 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,600 was sat there, having her make-up done. 416 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,040 In walks Emma Watson. Big hello, handshake, "Nice to meet you." 417 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,760 Absolutely surreal experience for such a Harry Potter fan 418 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,880 that I am and still am. 419 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,000 Well, it's just amazing... Yeah, absolutely. ..that all this 420 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,520 came about because JK Rowling was really moved by your story. 421 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,680 Yes, yeah, yeah, and it's something that I won't... 422 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,440 The experience and the items themselves 423 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,560 will be something that I will treasure forever. 424 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,040 I have a little girl, so they will be passed down to her. 425 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Which is wonderful. Yeah, absolutely. 426 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,640 But obviously they have a value. 427 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,920 Yes. Particularly, you know, with all the collectors round the world 428 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,840 and, I mean, all these Harry Potters, you know... 429 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,680 a first edition. The others are not first edition, 430 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,280 but this one is a first edition... 431 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,760 Yeah, it is, yes. ..is going to be £3,000, £4,000. 432 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,800 The rest, maybe another £1,500... Amazing. ..but probably 433 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,640 about £5,000 to £8,000. 434 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,720 I mean, for you, that's not the important thing, I'm sure. 435 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,280 It's isn't, no, it's the... It's the memory behind it, absolutely. 436 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,720 Marvellous. Thank you. 437 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,360 Now, even the briefest of encounters 438 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,480 can leave the longest of impressions. 439 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,760 Roadshow viewer Cheryl will never forget her brush with fame. 440 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,920 In 1963, I won a competition to have tea with The Beatles. 441 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,400 The tea never actually materialised, but I did meet them, 442 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,320 and Paul McCartney walked across the studio floor, 443 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,880 put his arm round my shoulder, and I died and went to heaven. 444 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,000 Later on, he signed the back of my hand, there, 445 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,760 and I was allowed to keep this signature for about three weeks 446 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,640 until it turned into a filthy little black spot 447 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,280 and my mother made me wash it. 448 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,200 The great thing for me, really, was I'd suddenly gone from a fairly 449 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,400 quiet, insignificant little schoolgirl, 450 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,400 and suddenly everybody wanted to know me, 451 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,560 take me to the cinema, dance with me. 452 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,600 So, um, yes, it was very good for the...for the ego. 453 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,760 Very good for a young, nervous 16-year-old. 454 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Time to pull up a bar stool and meet two of our EastEnders hosts. 455 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,440 Well, I'm delighted to say, here we are in the Queen Vic 456 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,560 with two of EastEnders' longest-serving cast members. 457 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,080 Letitia Dean, June Brown - delighted to meet you here. 458 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,440 And you're... You're fans of the show, I gather, 459 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,680 of Antiques Roadshow. 460 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Yes, I love old things, including myself. 461 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,040 LAUGHTER 462 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,480 Yes, we need to get you valued, June, don't you think? 463 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,880 You've both been on the series for decades. 464 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,920 I remember watching you when I was more or less your age, when you 465 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,720 came here as a child star. Yeah, about 16. 466 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,280 And this, the Queen Vic, has been the scene of so, so many dramatic 467 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,320 moments in EastEnders. I mean, what about you, Letitia? 468 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,240 I mean, big standout moments. 469 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,360 I think, when I was quite young, when I was about 17, 18, 470 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,720 I remember when a character called Lofty was in the show, 471 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,960 and I had to crawl, I couldn't get up there now, 472 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,040 but I had to crawl along the bar, literally trying to, sort of, go, 473 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,000 "Do you fancy me, Lofty? Do you want a kiss?" 474 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,600 I mean, I know I'm probably not your type, but which bit of me 475 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,040 really turns you on, eh? 476 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,240 Have I got the right legs for a mini? Yeah, yeah, of course. 477 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,600 Do you like tights? 478 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,800 It was so embarrassing for me to do, you know, it was really awkward. JUNE CHUCKLES 479 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,640 You know, it is at that age, isn't it? Sure. And what about you, June? 480 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,720 I mean, so many moments to pick from. 481 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,960 Well, I enjoyed practically every scene with my son Nick. 482 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,040 Yes. You know, I did love that. 483 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,120 Great one for you was your two-hander with Ethel. 484 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:42,760 I was just about to say, and I had one with Gretchen Franklin, 485 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,240 who was Ethel. She was wonderful. Which was absolutely lovely, 486 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,640 and the only extra person we had in was a baby in the pram, Vicky, 487 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Michelle's baby, wasn't it? And we were looking after her. 488 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,880 Oh, that was lovely. 489 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,080 Sometimes I'm inclined to ramble on a bit, take no notice. 490 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,920 I never do. No, I don't mean I always ramble, 491 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,000 I mean, it's only sometimes. Here, look at this. 492 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,600 Who's that? Michelle as a baby. 493 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,680 Oh, I say, isn't she like Pauline? Yes. 494 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,000 She's not like her mother, is she? 495 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,800 Oh, I can see it. Oh. 496 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,920 What's the time? Oh, not time yet. 497 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,200 Well, thank you very much for joining us on 498 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,240 our Antiques Roadshow 40th anniversary year, 499 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,000 and here in the Queen Vic of all places. It's been a real thrill, 500 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,040 thank you. Oh, we are so honoured that you've come here for your 40th. 501 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,400 Yes, it's lovely. We really are. 502 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,280 Cos we're quite proud of this place, aren't we, June? 503 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,800 Before we hear from our next visitor to EastEnders, I want to let you 504 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,880 know about a special programme we're planning for 2018. 505 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,480 It will highlight the role of pioneering women as we approach 506 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,360 the centenary of women getting the vote in Britain. 507 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,560 If you've got an item and story that relates to a woman who's been 508 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,960 a pioneer, in any walk of life, we'd like to hear from you at... 509 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,880 Next up let's hear from Roadshow viewer Lionel, 510 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,960 who has a poignant memory of meeting Jimi Hendrix. 511 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,880 Back in the 1960s, as a young teenager, 512 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,840 I helped my parents out in their cafe in the King's Road, 513 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,480 and I often had my autograph book there, because 514 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,720 they would be getting The Stones and The Beatles and people like 515 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,920 that into the cafe, and one day Jimi came in, 516 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,880 and my father had his camera on him, 517 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,640 took a photo of us altogether, the family with Jimi, 518 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,040 and I was thrilled to get his autograph, 519 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,040 which he kindly signed, "stay sweet always", 520 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,600 rather than just his name in the book. 521 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,240 Jumping forward a few years, I was selling platform boots in 522 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,840 Kensington Market, made to measure, and my mother sent Jimi over 523 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,160 to get a pair of purple crocodile boots made, 524 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,920 which I measured him and took his deposit, 525 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,200 and they were going to take a week to make, and then the next morning 526 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,720 I got the news that he'd died that morning in his hotel, 527 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,880 and we took the deposit and bought some flowers, 528 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,440 which went to the funeral. 529 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,000 Another Roadshow viewer, Terri, got in touch with us 530 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,960 to tell us about the time she met the New York artist 531 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,440 who once said that, one day, we'll each be famous for 15 minutes. 532 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,560 Andy Warhol, probably the most iconic artist, or one of them, 533 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,160 of the 20th century. Amazing. Signed camisole. What's the story? 534 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,800 Well, I was very fortunate. 535 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,720 I was invited to join Andy Warhol's entourage for a day 536 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,600 at the university in Colorado. 537 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,320 I happened to be living there at the time, and I knew Kimiko through... 538 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,960 The subject of that poster? ..the subject of this poster, 539 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,320 because I lived in the same house as her stepson. Ah, right. 540 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,880 John Powers and his father... 541 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,040 John Powers. ..John Powers Senior had one of the largest private art 542 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,000 collections in the US at the time. Yeah. 543 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,080 So it was a wonderful connection, and a wonderful day I got to spend 544 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,640 with him. And that's a picture of you, I take it? That is, yeah. 545 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,400 Looking... Much younger. ..just as beautiful then as you are now. 546 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,760 Thank you. And he had in his studio, The Factory, 547 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360 he was always inviting beautiful people and celebrities. 548 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,920 He created celebrity. Yeah, he did. 549 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,320 He really did, and he signed your camisole... 550 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,200 Yeah, he did. ..on that day. 551 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,120 He'd like to have signed other things as well. 552 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,880 What do you...? What? What do you mean? 553 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,240 Well, he offered to sign everything, but we went for my jeans, 554 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,440 my silk jacket I had on, which you see in the picture, 555 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,080 and my camisole, and I settled for the camisole. Ah, I see, 556 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,400 and another iconic magazine, Interview, he signed that. 557 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,560 Yes, he gave that to me later in the day. 558 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,240 And in this picture he had one of his silver wigs on. 559 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,320 Yes, he did, and I remember walking around with him, thinking, 560 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,480 "Is that real or is that a wig?" because it was quite a... 561 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,600 At the time, it was quite an unusual way to wear your hair. 562 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,000 Yeah, he was an interesting character. 563 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,960 Well, interesting story, amazing memory for you. 564 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760 Yeah, it was fabulous. An amazing day, yeah, really. 565 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,520 Down to value. 566 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,880 Well, we've got this poster which is fairly iconic, typical Andy Warhol. 567 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,320 He did these things in silk screen prints as an original 568 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,400 but this is the poster and the unsigned poster is just 569 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,560 a poster for an exhibition, £200 or £300. 570 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,760 Right. With the Andy Warhol signature, and I presume... 571 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,600 This is Kimiko. ..the Kimiko Powers signature in Japanese. That's right. 572 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,240 Phwoar! 573 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,080 £3,000 to £4,000. 574 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,920 Really? 575 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,040 Wow. 576 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,760 The Interview magazine, signed by Andy Warhol, 577 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,240 I'd say £1,000. 578 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760 This photograph I'm sure is by Lee Black Childers. 579 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,200 He was a fascinating guy, I think from Kansas originally, 580 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,520 worked in a brothel. Great. On the reception. It fits. 581 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,800 It fits perfectly. Crazy guy, I met him and I'm... 582 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,880 And I'm sure I went to an exhibition of his photographs recently 583 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,040 and a photograph like that, Andy Warhol in a wig, 584 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,440 beautiful woman standing behind him, I still think that's £500... 585 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,120 Wow. Wow. ..to £1,000. 586 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,440 This fits in with his idea of what art was, 587 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,960 that art could be anything, even if it was commercial, the soup tins, 588 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,360 the dollar bills, whatever, 589 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,880 so I think this is really iconic Andy Warhol, 590 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,320 and I would value this, with your story, 591 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,560 and him wanting to sign everything you were wearing, 592 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,680 I'd put this at... 593 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,960 £5,000. Oh, my God. 594 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,240 I'm going to cry. 595 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,720 Collective value, all told, £10,000. 596 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,000 Oh, God. 597 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,720 Oh, my God. 598 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,760 That's amazing. 599 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,760 Amazing. Thank you. 600 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,920 Time for a classic comedy moment, 601 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,840 as we meet an unlikely and somewhat furry star. 602 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,480 Quite simply the most famous rodent 603 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,400 on British television. That's right. 604 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,880 Shall we see him in action? That'd be good. 605 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040 Uh, Polly, would you get the biscuits please? 606 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,400 Here they are, Fawlty. 607 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,000 Ah! Uh, Cheddar, Danish blue, Edam? 608 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,760 A little Danish blue please. Certainly. 609 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,400 Edam? No, thank you. 610 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,520 Biscuits? 611 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,800 Thank you. 612 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,280 LAUGHTER 613 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,520 What...? Would you, would you care for a rat or...? 614 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,240 Just, just the biscuits then, please, Polly. 615 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,720 Well, this little fellow did rather well that day. 616 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,640 How have you got him? 617 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,640 My husband made puppets for various children's TV programmes 618 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,960 and then end... Somehow ended up with the Visual Effects Department. 619 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,120 And so he made fabulous little Basil, 620 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520 and of course he thought it was a hamster... 621 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,840 That's right, a Siberian hamster, yeah. 622 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,240 Siberian hamster! And so Manuel called him Basil. That's it. 623 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,080 And this little chap was sitting in the biscuit box. Yeah. 624 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,200 And this little chap was actually pulled across the floor. 625 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,480 At great speed across the floor, yes. 626 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,600 With fantastic ingenuity of drawing pins in the bottom 627 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,160 to make him speed a little bit faster. That, that's right, yes. 628 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,440 I mean we're talking about in the mid '70s but people remember Basil. 629 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,400 Yeah, yeah, they do. 630 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,480 So your husband's work, and had he always made puppets? Yes, 631 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,440 when he was about five years old I think he started making puppets. 632 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,000 Really? Yes, so we've got a houseful of puppets. 633 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,400 But was Basil the rat his most famous? 634 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Uh, I think so, yes. Probably, yeah. 635 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,000 So, we now have the two rats. 636 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,040 Now, John Cleese got one, didn't he? 637 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,120 He asked if he could keep one, but unfortunately 638 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:17,200 he's recently spoken about losing it somewhere so... 639 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,680 So the other Basil has gone? Mmm, mm. Oh, no! 640 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:26,640 Well, actually what that does is make your Basils more desirable. 641 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,400 Mm-hmm. So because everybody 642 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,000 of a certain age in particular knows about Basil. 643 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,160 Yeah. And because that programme will go on and on, 644 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,680 I think these have...have value. 645 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,920 Right. This little chap here 646 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,200 with his little moving head and his charming little arms, 647 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,800 going up and down, I mean, how cute is that?! 648 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,000 I think...each one of them 649 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,080 is 2,000. 650 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Really? Oh, my goodness. 651 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,840 Possibly even 3,000. 652 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,760 I mean... And, oh, my goodness. 653 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,880 They are just so important in the history of comedy. 654 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,720 Oh, wow. He'll be absolutely thrilled to hear that. 655 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:10,760 Thank you. 656 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,320 MUSIC: James Bond Theme 657 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,560 Wow. From memorable comedy to a famous movie franchise. 658 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,200 When we put out our call for stories we were delighted when we heard 659 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,440 from the daughter of the man who wrote this famous theme. 660 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,920 Monty, you are responsible for what I think is the most iconic 661 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,920 theme tune of them all, which is the James Bond theme tune. 662 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,920 Thank you. And you wrote it for a musical originally 663 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,480 that never got made. Yes. 664 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,040 So how did you come to use this piece of music for the Bond movies? 665 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,520 Because I'd worked several times with Cubby Broccoli. 666 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,160 The producer of the Bond movies. The producer. 667 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,480 And he'd just acquired the rights of the James Bond novels 668 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,120 from Ian Fleming. The first one he was going to do would be Dr No 669 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600 and he wanted me to write the music. 670 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,040 And what was it about the theme tune that you already had 671 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,240 that you thought you could adapt to the Bond movies? 672 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,880 Well, what I did was I dug it out 673 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,480 and I played it and sang it to myself, and it went... 674 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,800 # I was born with this unlucky sneeze 675 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,320 # And what is worse I came into... # 676 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,320 And so on. Nothing like it! 677 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:31,560 And I suddenly realised that the way to do this is to split the notes, 678 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,160 so instead of... # Da-ee-a-da. # 679 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,160 ..it became... # Dum-diddy-dum-dum 680 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,320 # Dum dum dum Dum-diddy-dum-dum... # 681 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,720 Well, the moment I heard that, I knew I was on to it. 682 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,520 It had everything I wanted for James Bond - 683 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,920 it had the ruthlessness, the sexiness and everything else. 684 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,680 So looking at your manuscript here, looking at the notes, this... 685 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,440 I know all the James Bond movies, I know your theme tune so well, 686 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,960 so you've got the opening notes... 687 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,720 # Da-nah-nah... # ..with a sharp note. 688 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,720 And then it goes on. That's right. Then you've got... 689 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,880 # Da dah-dah dah dah Da da da 690 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,240 # Da dah-dah dah... # Exactly. This is full... 691 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,560 I've brought... I must have written that, scribbled that down in 1961. 692 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,680 And why do you think your theme tune has lasted 693 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,480 through all the different changes in music style, music fashion? 694 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,000 Well, I can't even answer that but the, the point is 695 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,520 that with any major theme, it's the first four bars that matter, 696 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,600 and with that one... 697 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640 # Dum da-da dum dum... # ..is all you need really, 698 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,000 because, from that, I wrote the whole thing organically. 699 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,840 And you went to Jamaica to be on the set of Dr No 700 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,960 with Sean Connery and Ursula Andress. 701 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,520 We've got you here. Here you are. And this chap is the, the director. 702 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,400 That's Terence Young, yes. And it must have been quite a thing. 703 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,480 I mean did anyone have any sense, either the director or Sean Connery, 704 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Ursula Andress, that they were at the start of something that 705 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,640 would last so long and become so huge in the movie industry? 706 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,880 None whatsoever. It's not possible. 707 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,320 So when you go to the cinema now, and you watch a James Bond movie, 708 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,480 and you hear your music all these decades on, 709 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,800 what do you think, are you proud? 710 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,440 I'm very proud. 711 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,240 Nobody could have been sure that it was going to last this long, 712 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,600 and I certainly wasn't, 713 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,600 and I didn't even think I'd be here to find out! 714 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,880 Well, you're being very modest. It's a great piece of music, 715 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,120 and it's been lovely to talk to you. Thank you. 716 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,880 Now, I understand that you're a sort of amateur archivist for the 717 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,040 Elstree Studios. Well, yes, I act as a historian for Elstree Studios. 718 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,960 I first went there in 1960 as a lad. 719 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,320 My late father worked in the industry 720 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,800 and I've been involved really for the studios for 57 years now. 721 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,240 Wow, fantastic. And you've brought along two of these story reports 722 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:04,040 of I think a collection of up to 20. 723 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,160 Yes, there's about 20 volumes. I saved them from going into the skip 724 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,160 when part of Elstree Studios was sold off and we were dumping 725 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,480 material and I said I'd rather keep these because 726 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,920 they're a unique legacy. They were compiled by 727 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,000 the Reader's Department at Elstree Studios. 728 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,840 In those days, studios had readers who would look at scripts submitted, 729 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,080 new novels published, stage plays, 730 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,400 anything that could give them an idea for a film, 731 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,640 and they would have to compile a report, a synopsis of the story, 732 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,120 and their comments as to whether the film was 733 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,480 a possibility or not and submit it to management. 734 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,880 And there is the challenge. They've turned down films like 735 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,200 The Great Escape, Dr No, Passage To India, 736 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,560 all sorts of films over the years because 737 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,360 people trying to second guess what the market was for that, 738 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,400 and these, in a sense, reflect a moment in time. 739 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,720 So quite, quite an important historical document in many ways. 740 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:02,280 I think so because I don't believe any other studios kept them. 741 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,200 Let's delve into this one here and if I can just open this. 742 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,960 It's really heavy. Open it up... 743 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,240 ..and this is, well, "Title Of Subject: Thunderball." 744 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,120 Yes. "Author: Ian Fleming. 745 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,400 "Type Of Material: Thriller." 746 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,560 And this is 25th of the 11th, 1960. 747 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,720 This is before Dr No was shot, so this is... Before Dr No. 748 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,400 We just go on a few pages and we go to the report, 749 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,280 and it says, "Reader's Comment: 750 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,880 "Pretty much the mixture as before, plus a few modern props. 751 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,160 "This time a typical James Bond adventure gets off to a good start, 752 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,120 "but fails to build up tension." 753 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,040 So pretty damning really. Very damning actually, yes, 754 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,720 cos it goes on to say that, "All through the main story 755 00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:48,400 "this excessive use of modern gadgetry..." 756 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,640 Which is the Bond staple, wasn't it? 757 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,600 Yes! "..proves to be a substitute for character and intervention. 758 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,240 "These defects would be certain 759 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,440 "to show up more disastrously on the screen. 760 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,520 "I feel the story would not promote a successful film." 761 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,080 "No..." LAUGHTER 762 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,120 "No recommendation." No recommendation. 763 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,880 So a big mistake. Big mistake, yes. Let's move on to the one nearer you. 764 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,880 Well, this one goes back to 1951, 765 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,600 and this was for an idea of a film called The Dam Busters. 766 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,400 Now, did the public want a film about the dam busters, 767 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,560 because it was only seven or eight years earlier? 768 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,080 And here we see the reader's report. 769 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,720 "There is everything here for a truly memorial war film. 770 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,240 "The almost unbearable excitement, 771 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:37,760 "the humour behind the scenes and even a love interest. 772 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,240 "The whole thing would inevitably raise our prestige 773 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:44,520 "and the film could be launched in a splash of publicity 774 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,320 "as well as raising the morale of the nation at a time when 775 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,920 "the lion's roar is more like a bleat from a Pekinese pup." 776 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,560 LAUGHTER 777 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,680 And the film was green lighted for production at Elstree, 778 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,040 but it took two years preparing it, so it wasn't released 779 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,240 for, you know, a few years after that. Um... 780 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,600 It's very difficult to value an archive like... Without doubt, 781 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,000 it's an important document in the history of British film-making 782 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,320 and you've got 20 of those so, you know, 783 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,840 even if you put it as little as £500 on each, 784 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,840 that's 10,000 to 15,000, maybe more, for insurance, 785 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,640 so, you know, it is an important archive. 786 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,800 You saved it and I think we all owe you a great, 787 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,280 well, appreciation, because without you, these would be long gone. 788 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,240 Thank you. Thank you. 789 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,640 The role of studio workers, such as story reviewers, was invaluable, 790 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,560 as was the humble tea lady. 791 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,280 Thanks to a viewer getting in touch, we heard about Ruby, 792 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,520 who met a galaxy of stars while working at MGM Studios in Elstree. 793 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,640 I've been told that you and I have got something in common. We have? 794 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,400 Yeah, I used to be a hairdresser to the stars, 795 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,880 and I was told that you were a tea lady to the stars. 796 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,920 Yes, I was, up at MGM in 1949. 797 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,880 '49? Yep. Wow, before I was born. 798 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,760 Oh, stop bragging! LAUGHTER 799 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,560 So who are these two guys? 800 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,560 He is here because I used to serve him on the trolley. 801 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,720 Stewart Grainger? Stewart Grainger, and he used to come in specially 802 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:20,920 cos I used to do him bread and dripping. Oh, really? 803 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,600 He loved bread and dripping, 804 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,840 and I used to do that specially for him, 805 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,280 and I'll tell you a little thing about it, we used to bet. 806 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,760 He used to throw a coin, 807 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,960 and if I won, he paid for his bread and dripping, 808 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,880 but if he won I paid for his bread and dripping. 809 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,040 Really? Yeah. How amazing! 810 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:47,720 Yeah, but every time I won he used to say to me, "See my man." 811 00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:51,920 I said, "Who the heck is your man?" I said, "You owe me money!" 812 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,840 That was, was when he was working on Beau Brummel. 813 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,760 Oh, right. Victor Mature and he was my heart-throb by the way. 814 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,040 Oh, really? I was asked to go to the cabin, with a tray, 815 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,640 and when I went in, Victor Mature was there. 816 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,360 I nearly fainted, I was so pleased to see him. 817 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,680 I got the shock of my life cos when I took in the tray 818 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,240 and put it down in front of him I turned round and asked him, 819 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,680 did he want me to pour his tea for him, 820 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,920 and he said, "Oh, no, thank you," 821 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,280 and when he turned around he had a head full of pipe cleaners. 822 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,800 What, for curling his hair? Curling his hair, 823 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,840 and I thought that was natural, cos that's what I fell in love with. 824 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,000 Oh, my God. He had a mass of curly hair. 825 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,680 What was your impression 826 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,160 of the studios and the people that passed through it? 827 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,080 Oh, I mean, you just imagine! 828 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,560 I mean, I'm a pitman's daughter 829 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,840 and coming into this great MGM with lights and... 830 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,000 There's studios all around, you know, it was... It was just awesome. 831 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,680 I mean, it was the most wonderful experience of my life. 832 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,400 So happy. Yeah. Well, it's been incredible to meet you. 833 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,840 And you. Wonderful to hear some of your stories. Yes. 834 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,680 I mean, I'm going on to 92 so my memories are still good. 835 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,760 That is, that's incredible. Yeah. You look amazing. 836 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,240 Thank you. I really mean it. 837 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,560 Coming from you, thank you. Mwah. Thank you so much. 838 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,280 I regard myself as being a bit of musician so I know a little bit 839 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,040 about guitars, and although I'm a bass player, I know exactly what 840 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,520 that is. That's a Telecaster, that's a Fender Telecaster. 841 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,640 But what's the history behind it? 842 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,920 Well, this was the guitar that Mike Oldfield used to record 843 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,520 the electric guitar parts on Tubular Bells. 844 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,880 Right, so hence our copy of Tubular Bells here. 845 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,840 I was nine years old when Tubular Bells came out. 846 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,760 It was one of those albums that kind of, in a way, changed my life 847 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,240 as a boy, I just thought it was just incredible. 848 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:52,560 So, what's that? 1973 the album came out. Yeah, 849 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,360 Oldfield was 19 years old when he did that album as well. 850 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,880 It's staggering, isn't it? 851 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,800 I hate him! LAUGHTER 852 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,440 Oldfield was a non-reader, wasn't he? He couldn't read music. 853 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,160 That's right, he made up coloured charts 854 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,600 to annotate when different instruments were coming in. 855 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,720 Well, listen, you know, 856 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:09,120 I'm going to have to ask you, how did you acquire it? 857 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,560 Well, Mike put it up for auction for charity in 2009... 858 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,880 Right. ..and it failed to sell. Right. 859 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,000 But what I did was I got an old copy of the catalogue 860 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,360 and then contacted the charity direct. Right, OK. 861 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,720 And made them an offer 862 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,320 and they thought about it for a few days and accepted it. 863 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,160 The other interesting thing was that Mike got it from Marc Bolan. 864 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,800 Ah, one of my heroes. Yeah. 865 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,320 So it's had two very famous players own it. 866 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,160 I'd love to have a go on this guitar but I think it's more appropriate 867 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,040 if you could strum a tune for us. Would you mind doing that? 868 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,840 OK, I can do that, for a small fee. Lovely, OK, go ahead. 869 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,720 I think that's incredible also about this guitar is that, you know, 870 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,000 as you've just described, it was Marc Bolan's before. 871 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,200 I mean that, that's a sort of a double whammy on a guitar like this 872 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,320 really, isn't it? It's got history. 873 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,720 Why did he pass it on? 874 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,320 They were both signed to the NEMS agency - 875 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,120 you know, run by Brian Epstein... Right. And they were both involved 876 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,080 with a chap called Roy Guest, and Marc didn't get on with the guitar, 877 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,960 so when Roy heard that Mike was looking for one 878 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,400 to record Tubular Bells, he got the guitar from Marc for him. 879 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,200 Are you ready? 880 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,880 Brilliant. 881 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,040 I don't think I'm going to embarrass myself 882 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,920 and try and keep up with that. 883 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,600 It's very good. I mean, it is, you know, 884 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,840 it's a good enough guitar in its own right to be worth a lot of money 885 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,000 anyway, as an original '60s Fender Telecaster, 886 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,440 so if we're starting to kind of work it up and talk about its history 887 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,720 and think about what it's really, really worth, 888 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:51,200 you know it was Marc Bolan's to start off with. 889 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,280 Yeah. Absolutely incredible. 890 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,720 It then went on to be Mike Oldfield's, perhaps one of 891 00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,240 the biggest selling artists of all time, 892 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,400 and here he is, picture of him in his studio, 893 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,480 with that Fender propped up next to him in the studio, 894 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,880 you know, 100% certain of that, 895 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,800 and how do we put a price on it? It's really, really difficult. 896 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,760 Do you mind me asking what you paid for it? 897 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,160 Uh, under 10,000. Under 10,000. Yeah. 898 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,520 Well, you know, it was a lot of money, wasn't it? Yeah. 899 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,600 But I still think it's worth a lot more than that, 900 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,600 and, quite frankly, I think if it were to come up for auction, 901 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,640 I would put £20,000 to £30,000 on that guitar. 902 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,200 It's a guitar with great history and I hope you enjoy playing it. 903 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,880 Thank you. My pleasure. 904 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080 DOCTOR WHO THEME TUNE 905 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,400 From music royalty to television history, 906 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,600 so let's travel back in time for a unique memento 907 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,160 of TV's favourite Time Lord. 908 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,120 When I stepped onto Albert Square this morning, 909 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,000 the first thing that struck me was the amount 910 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,280 of television history that's here. We've got the square itself, 911 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,360 of course the Queen Vic behind me, 912 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,880 and from one iconic TV series, I suppose straight to another, 913 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,160 and the days of black and white television, 914 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,720 Doctor Who and The Tribe Of Gum, 915 00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:03,480 a television script, 916 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,880 quite a rare thing, how did you get it? 917 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,080 Well, it was given to me by my grandfather. 918 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,600 I suppose I was about eight, 919 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,880 went down to see him in the summer, as we always did. 920 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,200 Grandad worked for a building company. 921 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,520 William Hartnell had just moved out of his cottage in Mayfield 922 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,320 in East Sussex, I think to somewhere in Kent, 923 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,960 and this was in the detritus that was being thrown out 924 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,800 during the refurbishment of the cottage, 925 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,320 and Grandad gave it to me cos I was an avid, and still am, 926 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,320 Doctor Who viewer. Wow. So did you... 927 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,160 Did you understand what it was, that it was a script for Doctor Who? 928 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,400 Well, I suppose at that age, yeah, I knew it was a script for Doctor Who, 929 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,920 I read it, yeah, cos there's technical stuff in there 930 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,600 and I thought, um, don't really understand some of it, at that age, 931 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,320 and it sort of just stayed with me when I moved round the country 932 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,840 and grew up, and it's something 933 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,400 I've always sort of wanted to know a little bit more about. 934 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,880 Well, fantastic. So the script has actually got this blue pencil 935 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,600 which shows the lines that the Doctor speaks, 936 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,840 and it makes you just wonder when William Hartnell, 937 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,840 the first Doctor Who, was going through this with his pencil, 938 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,600 probably sitting at home with his wife and working on his script, 939 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,880 what he was thinking, it's a new programme, it's... 940 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,720 No-one's seen this sort of thing before, 941 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:13,840 no-one's really done science fiction on the BBC before, 942 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,440 let alone at tea time on a Saturday, 943 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,880 but it's just lovely to see it and, for me, a real privilege, 944 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,440 it really, really is. 945 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,720 One thing that maybe you hadn't realised 946 00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:26,520 this it isn't any old Doctor Who story. 947 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:32,600 This is a script for the very first Doctor Who story, 1963. No. 948 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,520 He was in 30 stories, he could have left 30 scripts in that house, 949 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:42,400 it just so happens that he left the script for the very first story, 950 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,880 and that's what we've got. This is the DNA of Doctor Who, 951 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,680 it's the Genesis of the programme. 952 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,040 So a very, very important thing. 953 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,920 Doctor Who, as we all know, 954 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,720 has an enormous fan following, it really does, and there are 955 00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,480 fans who would give their eye teeth for something like that. 956 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,320 I don't see any reason for anyone wanting to fake this, it looks... 957 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,440 You've given a cast iron provenance and it's showing signs of age. 958 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,000 I think in terms of value we need to be looking at 959 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,120 between £5,000 and £7,000. 960 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,400 What?! 961 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:20,720 Oh, my! 962 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:22,160 Oh, dear! 963 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,840 It's not going back and sitting in a file. 964 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,360 You will never see another one. 965 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,760 Oh, wow. Thanks, Grandad! 966 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,800 Thanks. 967 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,040 When we put out the notice that we were doing a Roadshow special 968 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,360 on entertainment we hoped beyond hope that we would get 969 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,280 some wonderful film props, 970 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,760 and you have delivered because you've got three props here 971 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,520 for some of the greatest films ever made here in these studios, 972 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,320 but what's important about film props is the history 973 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,920 and the provenance. So what was your job here in the studio? 974 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,760 My job in the studio was scenic painter. 975 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,200 I painted anything that needed painting - a scene, 976 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,680 a set on the stage, 977 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,000 a prop - it was, "Ron, paint this." 978 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,760 Sometimes I didn't know what it was. 979 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,440 I wouldn't know what colour to paint it but I would paint it 980 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,560 and I then I would get an OK from an art director, 981 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,600 "Oh, yes, that's what we wanted." 982 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,040 So here we have the iconic mask, Darth Vader's mask. 983 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,760 Which series was this one from? 984 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,320 This was the first Star Wars in '76. 985 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,800 I started in January and this came to me 986 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,560 a fortnight after I started work, 987 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,360 and they said, "Spray this one." 988 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,160 They showed me a drawing and I painted it. 989 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,640 So we move from Star Wars on to Raiders Of The Lost Ark, 990 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,840 and here, again, a really important prop 991 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,000 because it was the one on the Staff Of Ra. I think it is, isn't it? 992 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,560 Yeah, the Staff Of Ra. And it's how they discovered the right location. 993 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,600 This was brought to me. 994 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,480 I did five of them for different scenes throughout the film 995 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,560 and they would come to me, collect one at a time, 996 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,520 because they were quite fragile. 997 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:21,360 I painted the actual Ark itself, the big gold Ark. 998 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,760 The actual Ark itself? So that's the same, same process 999 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,960 that I used for the Ark. 1000 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,520 And the Ark I think is now in a private collection. 1001 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,720 It's in George Lucas's shed in the garden. I think it is. 1002 00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:37,200 But again, film-used. 1003 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,080 Yeah, film-used, yes. 1004 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,960 And finally the axe. Yeah, the axe. This came to me... 1005 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,120 I did 14 months on The Shining 1006 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,000 and this came to me towards the end of the film. 1007 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,080 So this was the axe actually used to batter down, 1008 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,280 Jack Nicholson battered down the door. 1009 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,680 It went right through the door and got caught on the other side 1010 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,720 and when they pulled it out, it damaged the edge there, 1011 00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:07,480 it cracked and it became loose, so it couldn't be used again. 1012 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,600 I was going to make a fibreglass one to copy 1013 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,680 so they could use it safely. 1014 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,600 So basically this is the original one that battered down the door. 1015 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,440 That is the... ..and the fibreglass one that they could carry around. 1016 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,240 Yeah, they could carry around. 1017 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:23,800 So how did you come to keep such iconic pieces? 1018 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,440 Well, this came back to me to be refurbished, 1019 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,800 but I was waiting for the helmet, which is missing, 1020 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:37,200 so I just put this to one side and the film eventually wound up, 1021 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,960 cleared up, and everything was being thrown in the skip. 1022 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,760 AUDIENCE: Oooh! 1023 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,840 In the skip. So you saved it? 1024 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,040 So I said, I'll save that. 1025 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,600 The same with that. 1026 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,320 It came back to me after the film, 1027 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,480 and they said, "Here Ron, look after that," so I looked after it. 1028 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,400 LAUGHTER 1029 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,200 The same with this. 1030 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,240 This is no good any more, cos it's broken. 1031 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:05,240 We're not going to use it, 1032 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:08,400 so it stayed in my workshop for... 1033 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,760 ..nearly five years, and then when I was clearing out, 1034 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,640 I cleared this out with it. So you saved these for the nation. 1035 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,880 I saved them. And it could all have gone in a skip. 1036 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,120 It could have all gone in a skip. Fantastic. 1037 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,880 So we have to talk about values, and prop prices have gone up 1038 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,160 radically in the last few years, so there are many, many collectors out 1039 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,320 there internationally, and these are truly international films, 1040 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,280 and these are iconic pieces. 1041 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,440 So what I'm trying to say, it ticks all these boxes. All the boxes. 1042 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000 Now, let's think about it if it went to auction. 1043 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,600 The axe, if it went to sale, I certainly would see that making... 1044 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,680 What shall I say? ..sort of £40,000 to £60,000. 1045 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,000 CROWD GASP 1046 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,560 The medallion, I would certainly think between 1047 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,680 £60,000 and £100,000. 1048 00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:00,440 And, well, the most evilest iconic evil monster ever, ever produced - 1049 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,960 arguably - Darth Vader, 1050 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,640 known worldwide, so what's that worth? 1051 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,760 If it should come to auction, 1052 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,240 £150,000 to £200,000. 1053 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,040 LAUGHTER Quite nice. 1054 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,000 Quite nice. 1055 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,600 So what does that make? Quarter of a million, is that? 1056 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,600 Low estimate. 350, top end. 1057 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,720 Yeah. The best props I have ever seen. 1058 00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:29,600 Yeah. And where do they go next? 1059 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,520 To my son, grandson. To your grandson. 1060 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,800 What a wonderful thing. 1061 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,160 What a stellar collection! 1062 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,920 Our thanks to Ron and to all those who've joined us to share their 1063 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,760 stories and reveal their mementoes from the world of entertainment. 1064 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,440 Well, that is an incredible bequest from your grandfather. 1065 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,200 Yes, yes. Did you know he was suddenly going to hand it 1066 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,160 over to you? Not, not to me. I assumed 1067 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,680 they would stay in the family, but not, say directly to myself. 1068 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,600 So what do you think? That's great. 1069 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,520 I mean I'm into my films and I do a bit of work 1070 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,480 in that sort of industry myself. 1071 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,280 It's not everyday you come across these sort of items though, 1072 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,480 so it's a nice surprise. I'll say! Well, congratulations. 1073 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040 Thank you very much. 1074 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,040 From the EastEnders set and the Antiques Roadshow team, 1075 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,120 and of course Darth Vader, bye-bye.